tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post5678383255013389037..comments2024-03-24T01:16:48.151-04:00Comments on Grind and Punishment: This Comp Got Killed (By Fascists?)Andrew Childershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09817760227836086070noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-64915187587432233072011-08-26T15:09:47.087-04:002011-08-26T15:09:47.087-04:00Don't forget that this exists http://relapsere...Don't forget that this exists http://relapserecords.bandcamp.com/Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17428410277953020650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-88618890933546324272011-08-26T09:19:54.761-04:002011-08-26T09:19:54.761-04:00i wouldn't say elitists, but things are changi...i wouldn't say elitists, but things are changing (it's neither good nor bad, just different) so it doesn't hurt to stop and think over what it may mean and send off a bygone era.Andrew Childershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09817760227836086070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-54796905597258381152011-08-26T01:00:48.685-04:002011-08-26T01:00:48.685-04:00so many different types of people. i, for one, ref...so many different types of people. i, for one, refuse to hit myspace, bandcamp, etc. to me it is a waste of time as the songs are rarely from the same release (production variations, mising variations, etc) so there is little to no continuity.<br /><br />comps are great in this respect. obscene extreme, tolivealie, playfastordont - the list goes on. great way to learn about newer, raw bands. comps are far from dead - you guys sound like elitists :)DRJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11522056266367042886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-25019309714426703792011-08-25T19:57:50.699-04:002011-08-25T19:57:50.699-04:00i think even in a digital world the comp is dead. ...i think even in a digital world the comp is dead. i grew up with comps and i remember them fondly, but i'll also acknowledge that most times it was two or three good songs and bands and a whole lotta meh.<br /><br />i think in a post-physical media world, you're not competing for dollars like they used to. now it's a competition for attention and it seems like promoting yourself may make more sense than trying to stand out in a crowd.Andrew Childershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09817760227836086070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-46548293414937205582011-08-25T16:40:09.897-04:002011-08-25T16:40:09.897-04:00That post-felix guy brings up a great point, most ...That post-felix guy brings up a great point, most 3+ band splits can be considered comps and vice versa.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703464346535085995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-66817221572678243092011-08-25T15:58:25.898-04:002011-08-25T15:58:25.898-04:00I think we'd all agree what we're really l...I think we'd all agree what we're really lamenting here is the death of the physical, label-produced compilation as a viable form rather than the death of the compilation itself. As I've been saying for years since all of this "death of the music industry" business started, nothing's dying, it's just changing. We no longer need compilations with 20 songs that we can all get on other releases, because we can check out bands through online profiles or Youtube videos. That's a good thing. This is more a case of burning off the chaff; free mixtapes/compilations are bigger than ever now (free comps especially through Bandcamp), and compilations that offer new material, like This Comp (which should scrap cd altogether and just sell through digital and vinyl) still work, as long as they continue following the tried-and-true formula of giving you some of the old, some of the new, and all songs you've never heard before.DesiccatedVeinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783531567772825094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-13223817440118406472011-08-25T15:54:59.914-04:002011-08-25T15:54:59.914-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.DesiccatedVeinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783531567772825094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-27730975715278599912011-08-25T12:22:15.240-04:002011-08-25T12:22:15.240-04:00Here is one possible stance, which I think I belie...Here is one possible stance, which I think I believe:<br /><br />1) Traditional comp is dead<br /><br />2)Digital mix tapes are coming into their own as something meaninful (see Invisible Oranges recent mixes on Black Metal, Death Metal or Cryogenic Husk blog).<br /><br />3) Comp Kills Fascists should really be considered a 17-way split.post-felixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-81128522974778296672011-08-25T10:27:15.648-04:002011-08-25T10:27:15.648-04:00Well, i've been into metal for years and my ta...Well, i've been into metal for years and my tastes have gradually got more extreme. But i've only been into grind for a few years and This Comp Kills... is partly responsible for that! It got me into a load of new bands and gave me a great little snapshot of what was out there at the time. Anyway, I spose what i'm trying to say is that there are loads of potential new converts out there (like me at that time) and these comps work... (as well as kill...)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18425767479196562336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-27132565592639851152011-08-25T10:06:56.302-04:002011-08-25T10:06:56.302-04:00I had read awhile ago that the major factor for th...I had read awhile ago that the major factor for the music industry's decline was not illegal downloading, but rather legal downloading. People have stopped buying albums and instead buy singles off iTunes for a dollar. Of course, that kind of mainstream consumerism shouldn't affect the stuff we're talking about here. I also read, that the only positive in the music industry is the sales of vinyl; so maybe there is hope.<br /><br />You're right as I have never sought out an old comp, but I have bought some of the Clone series as well as the first This Comp....<br /><br />All of that said, I still love compilations and have discovered a lot of new bands. The trick for the bands/labels is to offer exclusive tracks rather than just putting on tracks we, as avid fans, already have.<br /><br /><br />That's my .89 cents anyway. Thanks for making me think this morning Andrew.Perpetual Strifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277776917618955404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-9421197319943547142011-08-25T09:46:36.908-04:002011-08-25T09:46:36.908-04:00Excuse me, Mr. Childers, but are you high? Comps a...Excuse me, Mr. Childers, but are you high? Comps are still essential in underground, DIY scenes like the grind scene we love so much as well as hardcore, crust, PV, punk and the other niche, sub genres. Not only are they still being physically produced(praises to Merlin) but tons of digital ones pop up all the time that aren't Grindcore Karaoke like profile. I just saw a call for a UK grind comp on a DIY radio station blog and our Blogosphere friends are putting them out too (Grinding Aftermath, etc.)<br />A crucial comp you didn't mention is the Reality series by Deep Six and the multiple 625 Thrash comps(the El Guapo comp, Murderous Grind comp,Possessed To Skate series, the Barbaric Thrash series) . I have some other favourites that are region based like the California Thrash Demolition comp. I could talk for hours on awesome comps labels have done like the old school Victory comps.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703464346535085995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-86070020945722153962011-08-25T06:55:40.405-04:002011-08-25T06:55:40.405-04:00Never really liked compilations. Its a format whic...Never really liked compilations. Its a format which has been far too often abused by record labels, distributors and magazines to try and sell crap which they probably don't even like themselves.<br /><br />In my opinion, the internet has spawned a much healthier variation of the compilation format, namely the digital mix tape, which is often made by fans and artists with a real knowledge of the music they are compiling. A good example might be Fenriz's Trapped Under Vice compilation, which is definitely one of my favourite compilations of all time.AVFNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194701917618933790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-35784170172143452072011-08-25T02:15:12.487-04:002011-08-25T02:15:12.487-04:00i like the yearly tolivealie comps - a collection ...i like the yearly tolivealie comps - a collection of good tracks from various bands released by the label. all the bands have material, so if you like what you hear you can actually follow up with splits and full-lengths.<br /><br />that is what pisses me off about comps: you like a band, you track them down, and they have 5 songs, 3 of which were on the comp. fucking lame.DRJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11522056266367042886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423175970439780764.post-57483647264956848172011-08-24T23:39:48.997-04:002011-08-24T23:39:48.997-04:00I loved compilations when i was first getting into...I loved compilations when i was first getting into punk, hardcore, metal in the early 2000's. They were cheaper than a full cd of a single band and introduced me to some of my favorite artists. I think the future of the compilation album is going to reside on the internet for free. Most of the classic grind comps you mentioned can be found on numerous blogs; which in my opinion feeds the interest and exposure of these (sometimes) old and obscure bands. The only drawback is no one is profiting: except for grind itself.Alexsmusichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13479353509482557694noreply@blogger.com